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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby HawkBowler on Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:49 pm

Kareem Hunt being cut shook up the playoff picture for sure. Here we have probably a top three back who was the biggest contributor to the Chiefs on offense. He was like Marshal Faulk to the greatest show on turf. I don't think the Chiefs get out of divisional round after this. Hunt killed the Chiefs season... probably his career as well.
 
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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby ThePro on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:59 am

HawkBowler wrote:Kareem Hunt being cut shook up the playoff picture for sure. Here we have probably a top three back who was the biggest contributor to the Chiefs on offense. He was like Marshal Faulk to the greatest show on turf. I don't think the Chiefs get out of divisional round after this. Hunt killed the Chiefs season... probably his career as well.


Ummmm Patrick Mahomes... they'll be fine.
 
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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby D-Trains on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:11 pm

Latest on the playoff chances.

Monday night capped a two-week period in which things could hardly have gone better for the Seattle Seahawks when it came to their playoff chances.

Consider that when the Seahawks began preparations for their game against Carolina heading into week 12, their playoff chances were listed at 45 percent by 538.com.


As of Monday night, following the Eagles’ 28-13 win over Washington, Seattle’s odds were up to 88 percent.

And should Seattle win Monday night against the Vikings at CenturyLink Field? Then the odds increase to 98 percent, per 538.com.

Seattle began the weekend in the number seven spot in the NFC. But Seattle’s 43-16 win over the 49ere coupled with Minnesota’s loss to New England (as well as the fact that as long as the Seahawks won Sunday they were going to move ahead of whoever finished the weekend second in the NFC East) moved the Seahawks to the number five spot.

That means that if the season ended today, the Seahawks would play at Dallas in the Wild Card round of the playoffs. If they won that, they would then travel to play either the Los Angeles Rams (who currently have the one seed) or the New Orleans Saints (who have the two). As of today, the Bears would host the Vikings in the other Wild Card game.

Seattle’s outlook rose so drastically since Thanksgiving Day thanks to two wins of its own and results in just about every other NFC game that were the most favorable for the Seahawks.

That included Monday night. Seattle’s odds, per 538,com, improved two percent with Philly’s win — the Seahawks were at 86 percent before that game. That’s because the defeat made Washington 6-6 and dropped them behind the Seahawks at 7-5. Washington loomed as a little bit of a potential problem for Seattle because the two teams don’t play and Washington had a better conference record heading into the day. But Washington doesn’t anymore, also falling to 6-4 in conference (Seattle is 6-3), dropping its playoff odds to 26 percent, via 538.com (and yes, I realize Washington’s QB situation means the odds of Washington staying in the playoff hunt were long. But the math was what it was).

In fact, due to faceplants by Green Bay, Washington and Carolina over the last two weeks, the playoff picture in the NFC has gone from apparent chaos to seeming clarity.

Consider that as of Monday night, there are six teams in the NFC with playoff odds of better than 60 percent (division leaders Rams, Saints, Bears and Cowboys, and Wild Card leaders Seahawks and Vikings) and no one else with better playoff odds than 28 percent (the Eagles, who have won two in a row to get to 6-6 and are the defending Super Bowl champs, but also finish with three of the last four on the road, including games against Dallas and the Rams, with the only home game against the surging Houston Texans).

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And in case you need reminding, six teams make the playoffs in each conference.

At this point, because of losses by others and Seattle’s favorable situation in tiebreakers with most contenders (specifically, head-to-head edges on Carolina and Dallas and conference game edges on the Eagles and Washington), all the Seahawks may logically have to do is win two more games. Go to any of the playoff simulators and Seattle’s odds of getting in the playoffs at 9-7 are in the high 90 percent.

Not that the Seahawks will want to hear any of that — as Seattle has experienced in a good way the last two weeks, things can change quickly and drastically in either direction in the NFL.

But at this point, simply beating the 49ers on the road and the Cardinals at home in the regular season finale might well be enough — barring a lot of other chaos elsewhere — to get get the Seahawks in the playoffs. The New York Times playoff simulator gives the Seahawks a 99 percent chance to make the playoffs with just those two wins.

Maybe not quite enough to buy playoff tickets just yet. But maybe good enough to make a deposit.
 
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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby ThePro on Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:02 pm

I don't want to play the Bears outdoors. As long as they avoid that bull****
 
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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby D-Trains on Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:38 pm

Anyone else think us being favored by 3.5 is a little light? That presumes it would be a pick em on a neutral site. I think we are better than them at this point and it isn't particularly close.

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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby ThePro on Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:58 pm

D-Trains wrote:Anyone else think us being favored by 3.5 is a little light? That presumes it would be a pick em on a neutral site. I think we are better than them at this point and it isn't particularly close.

dt


That's about dead on till they prove otherwise. It's just how the bets are going. Here's their chance to get that home field back up to 6+.
 
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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby D-Trains on Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:03 am

ET with a new baby. I dare someone to tweet, "I wonder if he flipped off the doctor on his way out"

https://twitter.com/AaronQ13Fox/status/ ... 2449771520
 
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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby HawkBowler on Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:31 pm

ThePro wrote:
HawkBowler wrote:Kareem Hunt being cut shook up the playoff picture for sure. Here we have probably a top three back who was the biggest contributor to the Chiefs on offense. He was like Marshal Faulk to the greatest show on turf. I don't think the Chiefs get out of divisional round after this. Hunt killed the Chiefs season... probably his career as well.


Ummmm Patrick Mahomes... they'll be fine.


Uh... I don't know about that. Sure, Mahomes is having the best 2nd year of any QB in history. He's putting up Peyton Manning in his prime numbers. And unlike Manning or Brady or Brees, Mahomes can use his legs.

However, a large portion of Mahomes big passes are coming from outside the pocket. He's a lot like Wilson and Rodgers, who like to bounce out into the flat, buy some time and then hit a crossing receiver downfield. That sort of play works well for the regular season, but it can be shut down come the playoffs. Teams will work to keep Mahome in the pocket, even if that means sacrificing some of the pass rush. Also, they will put the majority of effort into stopping the run, making the Chiefs one dimensional. There was no way to do that with Hunt in the backfield. But who do they have now -- former Seahawk Spencer Ware? There's a difference. The Chiefs can't lose a star like Hunt without a drop in production.

All of the above and the Chiefs defense sucks of course. They're going to face the Steelers or the Texans, Chargers? Doesn't matter, they will get torn up.

I like the Patriots and Texans for the AFCCG. These are the two most balanced on the AFC side.
 
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Re: Hawks now 9th in NFL power rankings

Postby HawkBowler on Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:36 pm

Is it a stretch to say that the Hawks are the 3rd best team in the NFC?
 
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