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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby D-Trains on Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:04 pm

hawkmagic wrote:We're all prejudiced and racist because we live in an American society. Realize this... and then deal with it at a self/personal level.


I agree with the first part and it definitely is related to the history of America but certainly not limited to America. Consider all of the genocide that has gone down all over the world. Something we have avoided....

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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby SonsofHan on Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:33 pm

Wow. DT you spawned a barn burner here.
 
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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby D-Trains on Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:49 pm

SonsofHan wrote:Wow. DT you spawned a barn burner here.


This is nothing. You must of missed the Michael Bennett threads last year.

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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby hawkmagic on Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:10 pm

D-Trains wrote:
hawkmagic wrote:We're all prejudiced and racist because we live in an American society. Realize this... and then deal with it at a self/personal level.


I agree with the first part and it definitely is related to the history of America but certainly not limited to America. Consider all of the genocide that has gone down all over the world. Something we have avoided....

dt


I can agree with genocide historically is not limited to the U.S. only, however, discussing genocide historically is not the same as discussing prejudice and racism in the present tense, which can be (although not necessarily the only) underlying primary causes of current inequalities in life in these United States ...which left unaddressed could gain momentum into genocidal et al atrocities.
 
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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby ThePro on Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:42 pm

ddraig wrote:I'll try one more time to "reason" with Pro. I know it won't sink in, but I'll try because I want him to understand where I'm coming from. So.....

Pro, I've been discriminated against, not because I have a few drops of African-American blood (More than Rachel Dolezal), but because I'm Catholic. Yes, I was turned down from a job because of my religion. No what? I moved on. But here's what I really want you to understand. I had a job where I was to work with people of all races, creeds, colors, and genders. Every one of them, to a person, told me that the next time I was in-country, I was to stay in their home and not a hotel. Think about that for a minute. If I thought you were racist, sexist, had a problem with my religion or gender, would I ask you into my home for two weeks?

White privilege? Think about that for a minute as well. How many whites are living below the Poverty Line? Twice as many Whites (14,000+) as Blacks (7,000+). There are 9,000+ Hispanics. And about that racism charge? Only 1,600 Asians. According to the numbers, Whites are discriminated against twice as much as Blacks. But what about that low number of Asians? If the U.S. is soooooooooo racist and has a white privilege problem, wouldn't the number of 1,600 be far higher? Or do you classify Asians as being White? If you can't have uniformity in the statistics across the board, then I call BUNK to your opinion!

I don't expect this to change your mind because you are firmly convinced the world is out to get you. Think, however, that if the U.S. was racist, how in the hell did Mr. Obama get elected not only once, but twice? There are ar more white voters in the U.S. than Blacks, Latinos, or Asians. So how did that happen?

I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, but that those espousing racism are illiterate imbeciles. My money is just as green as yours and that is all I see when working with others. You could be purple, orange, puce, or magenta and I don't care. If you have more ability in a job than I do, great! But don't ever call me racist. I can bring forth evidence from far more people in many more countries that you'll ever visit that will be able to contradict your narrow view of my personality. You need to get out more and look at the country from the ground, not flyover all of it to get from coast to coast. If you've done that, you will have seen a number of wonderful people who don't give a rip what your skin color is. You'll still find a few, but they are not in the majority as you think.


You're a racist. There is no race of people that purple, orange , puce or magenta. These are things someone with racist views say. You disgust me.
 
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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby Don Gorgon on Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:22 am

D-Trains wrote:
hawkmagic wrote:We're all prejudiced and racist because we live in an American society. Realize this... and then deal with it at a self/personal level.


I agree with the first part and it definitely is related to the history of America but certainly not limited to America. Consider all of the genocide that has gone down all over the world. Something we have avoided....

dt


something we avoided?...ever studied the destruction of the native american population? Some would argue it doesn't constitute genocide if it can be largely attributed to disease but I don't think we can say we avoided genocide

From a pre-contact population of perhaps 5,000,000 or more, the number of American Indians within the continental United States and its colonial antecedents fell to some 240,000 individuals by 1880–1900.
 
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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby auroraave on Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:30 am

what makes the Pro's allegations of racism against virtually everyone on this forum so laughable, is that if it were true... why would he frequent this place? Not only are his accusations false and baseless, the mere fact that he lives here shows he doesn't even actually believe it. No one spends this much time on a forum with a bunch of racists - no one.

Again - Pro's biggest problem isn't being a victim of racism - it's his lack of social skills and the ability to have adult dialogues that result in his getting rejected. Instead of looking in the mirror and reading his own posts and accepting responsibility for his toxic, hostile and often juvenile postings towards others, and understanding it's his behavior that causes his problems. Skin color has nothing to do with it. Anyone that speaks to others the way he does will get flat out rejected by most of society - blaming it on race/sexual orientation/ etc is a hollow attempt to skirt responsibility. Want to get treated fairly? Newsflash - treat others the same way All these other bullshit racism narratives he tries to pass off are 100% reflections of his own demons - not the demons and thoughts of other forum members. Look in the mirror dude. Pro's not isolated for any other reason other than the way he treats people. But instead of accepting that responsibility, like a man wold, he tries to blame it on racism. All the while the only one who is acting racist - is himself. Doesn't take a Ph.D to recognize it. it's too bad. I enjoy his football IQ - but his social interactions are simply disturbing. Own your own insecurities and take responsibility for them. The white guys on this forum ain't out to get you. We're here to root for the seahawks. If you honestly believed everyone on here was racist, why would you come here? (NOTE: this is where the Pro tries to make the narrative that "I'm telling him he shouldn't come here" as part of the victim narrative and a blatant attempt to dodge the question he refuses to answer because it'll expose his claims as completely invalid.

If everyone on here is such raging racists - why would you come here? Hell, I wouldn't and I'm white. Any dime store psychologist will tell you that if you spend all your time looking for something - you'll find it. If you spend all your time looking for racism - maybe the racist is you. Own it dude, and get over yourself.

If everyone on here is racist - why would you come here? It's a simple question. There are many other forums, and they all have a lot less spam. Why mingle with all these white privileged racists that are trying to keep you down?
The fact you will continue to post here shows you do not believe your own narrative to be true. It goes against all human nature.

Today's lesson in sifting through the bullshit is free, kids! :P
 
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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby ddraig on Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:56 am

Everyone on here is racist except The Pro. :roll:

What are the odds?
 
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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby SonsofHan on Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:48 pm

ddraig wrote:Everyone on here is racist except The Pro. :roll:

What are the odds?


I don't know if he is trolling for fun but I have seen this before.

I have seen mixed/people of color called white supremacist because they are questioning (not even disagreeing with directly) someone's political stance on an issue. But he could just be trolling for a laugh.
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Re: God I hate articles like this...........

Postby HawkBowler on Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:14 pm

hawkmagic wrote:
I can agree with genocide historically is not limited to the U.S. only, however, discussing genocide historically is not the same as discussing prejudice and racism in the present tense, which can be (although not necessarily the only) underlying primary causes of current inequalities in life in these United States ...which left unaddressed could gain momentum into genocidal et al atrocities.


Talk of genocide in the US is crazy talk. We're the most diverse country on earth. No other country even comes close to our mixture of different races and culture. We accept over 20% of the worlds immigrants every year. We're more than generous.

Genocide happens under dictatorships not a free society. So it stands to reason that our greatest threat internally comes from those political forces that wish to drive us into a totalitarian state. This can't be done without diminishing our civil rights so that's the battle ground at the moment. We can't compromise when it comes to free speech, freedom of religion and the 2nd amendment. The socialists in our country are attacking all three of those by no coincidence.
 
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