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Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby Auburn Terry on Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:01 am

Just watching the Indians go for 21 against Detroit.... they've shoved the pitch count to 83 after 3 innings. This team epitomizes "control the zone", doesn't swing for home runs, and turns the line up as well as any team in baseball. In the 20 game streak, the bottom 3rd of the lineup has generated runs in 17 of the games. Speed throughout the lineup.

ON Sept.22. the M's will be playing the Indians and handing out minor league awards. Nick Neidert, Ian Miller, and Jordan Cowan will be among the minor leaguers suited up and receiving awards. Jordan receives the Edgar Martinez award for PA productivity, which reflects OBP, controlling the zone, and pitch count wrecking among other things.
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby 2017WSorBustGoMs on Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:47 pm

The MLB post season should be pretty dang good again this year. Too bad the M's won't be
part of it.
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby Jibber Jabber on Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:27 pm

The Indians pitching staff has struck out the most batters in the majors and walked the least...the team has a collective 3.85:1 K:BB ratio, that is just staggering. For comparison, the M's are at 2.4:1 there.

To little surprise, the top 8 teams in the majors for K's are in the playoff hunt- but on the other hand so are the #29 and 30 teams on the list (Minnesota and Texas). Of course they are in the hunt primarily because the AL sucks so badly this year overall.
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby D-Trains on Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:36 pm

Jibber Jabber wrote:The Indians pitching staff has struck out the most batters in the majors and walked the least...the team has a collective 3.85:1 K:BB ratio, that is just staggering. For comparison, the M's are at 2.4:1 there.

To little surprise, the top 8 teams in the majors for K's are in the playoff hunt- but on the other hand so are the #29 and 30 teams on the list (Minnesota and Texas). Of course they are in the hunt primarily because the AL sucks so badly this year overall.


Damn it. The Indians stole our Control the Zone idea. Perhaps we can sue for patent infringement. If course if they had it first and gave it to us and then took it back that would make them Indians givers.

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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby Moe Gibbs on Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:36 pm

Thanks for the update Terry.

I don't see that much of a Talent Gap between Cleveland and Our Starting Lineups.
There, I just said it in public...it's OK if you guys want to laugh......
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby D-Trains on Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:41 pm

It is all about the pitching. The Indians are first going away and we are 24th.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?p ... &players=0
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby Freespeech on Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:42 pm

And who is their manager? Terry Francona. An experienced guy who wins. His handling of this team has been text book. He has them physically and mentally at their best at the end of the season unlike another team I know that has scuffled the entire year with an inexperience manager who is totally guessing what to do next.

I mean there is no parallel universe where we could go back to ST and switch managers, but I know which way I am leaning as to how it would come out.
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby D-Trains on Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:50 pm

Check out Bogar's track record. He is the guy everyone though JD would hire. Instead he goes with a guy with ZERO managerial experience.

Minor league managing career[edit]
Bogar has been named manager of the year in three different minor leagues.

He started his managerial career in 2004 with the Greeneville Astros of the Rookie-level Appalachian League. Greeneville finished with a 41–26 (.612) record and won the Appalachian League championship and Bogar was selected as manager of the year. He was promoted in 2005 to the Astros' low Class-A affiliate, the Lexington Legends of the South Atlantic League, where he led the Legends to a league best 82–57 mark and was named the 2005 SAL's top skipper.

He then switched to the Cleveland Indians' organization as pilot of the Akron Aeros, the Tribe's Double-A affiliate. In 2006, his first year with Akron, Bogar led the team to a league best 87–55 record and came within one game of winning the Eastern League title, captured that season by the Portland Sea Dogs. Bogar was named Eastern League manager of the year, and was selected to coach as part of Major League Baseball's 2006 All Star Futures Game. He was also selected by Baseball America as the "Best Manager Prospect" in the Eastern League in 2006. In 2007, Bogar's Aeros finished 80–61 and again made the final playoff round, losing to the Trenton Thunder, three games to one. He was also selected as a coach in the 2007 MLB All Star Futures Game in San Francisco.

After five seasons (2008–12) as a Major League coach, Bogar was hired to manage the Angels' Double-A affiliate, the Arkansas Travelers of the Texas League, on November 9, 2012.[5] He led the 2013 Travelers to a 73–66 overall record and the second-half championship of the loop's Northern Division. The Travelers reached the final round of the Texas League playoffs before bowing to the San Antonio Missions.

Bogar owns a five-year (2004–07; 2013) career minor-league managerial win-loss record of 362–266 (.576).
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby tbear on Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:25 pm

2017WSorBustGoMs wrote:The MLB post season should be pretty dang good again this year. Too bad the M's won't be
part of it.

We just need us one of them 21 game win streaks... oh wait...
 
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Re: Indians, sept 22, awards, Jordan Cowan

Postby Auburn Terry on Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:30 pm

D-Trains wrote:Check out Bogar's track record. He is the guy everyone though JD would hire. Instead he goes with a guy with ZERO managerial experience.

Minor league managing career[edit]
Bogar has been named manager of the year in three different minor leagues.

He started his managerial career in 2004 with the Greeneville Astros of the Rookie-level Appalachian League. Greeneville finished with a 41–26 (.612) record and won the Appalachian League championship and Bogar was selected as manager of the year. He was promoted in 2005 to the Astros' low Class-A affiliate, the Lexington Legends of the South Atlantic League, where he led the Legends to a league best 82–57 mark and was named the 2005 SAL's top skipper.

He then switched to the Cleveland Indians' organization as pilot of the Akron Aeros, the Tribe's Double-A affiliate. In 2006, his first year with Akron, Bogar led the team to a league best 87–55 record and came within one game of winning the Eastern League title, captured that season by the Portland Sea Dogs. Bogar was named Eastern League manager of the year, and was selected to coach as part of Major League Baseball's 2006 All Star Futures Game. He was also selected by Baseball America as the "Best Manager Prospect" in the Eastern League in 2006. In 2007, Bogar's Aeros finished 80–61 and again made the final playoff round, losing to the Trenton Thunder, three games to one. He was also selected as a coach in the 2007 MLB All Star Futures Game in San Francisco.

After five seasons (2008–12) as a Major League coach, Bogar was hired to manage the Angels' Double-A affiliate, the Arkansas Travelers of the Texas League, on November 9, 2012.[5] He led the 2013 Travelers to a 73–66 overall record and the second-half championship of the loop's Northern Division. The Travelers reached the final round of the Texas League playoffs before bowing to the San Antonio Missions.

Bogar owns a five-year (2004–07; 2013) career minor-league managerial win-loss record of 362–266 (.576).


OK, I'm sold..... Let's have Bogar run this team next year and let Mitch Canham be his bench coach and Edgar the hitting coach.
 
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