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Ted Williams

Postby r.g. on Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:14 pm

I may have posted about this once before but I was talking to a friend of mine, of course, about baseball. We were talking about this one time we were at a restaurant and I got to sit down and talk to Ted Williams. He, of the same Ted Williams who had an incredible .482 OBP, LIFETIME!!!! Good lord.....freaking lifetime. That is almost getting on base half the time you went to the plate. I know it was a different era back then but even so, I am not certain anyone has ever done that in one year (I am too lazy to look it up). But I just marvel at that stat. :shock: :shock:
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby 2021WSorBust on Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:30 pm

Let's thaw him out and get him on the roster. We need a DH.
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby r.g. on Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:37 pm

The problem with that idea is Dipoto would trade him for Dustin Ackley.
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby Jibber Jabber on Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:46 pm

his .482 is the all-time career record, followed closely by the Babe at .474:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... &sort=14,d

Teddy Ballgame was at "only" 130 career WAR, but he played fewer games than most all-timers around him when he missed time for the war and he gets dinged for poor defense...but playing 1,982 games in front of the Green Monster can do that to anyone. And I still think defensive metrics are mostly gibberish anyway.

Single-season record is Bonds at .609, but that was heavily influenced by his head becoming so enormous from all of the PEDs that pitchers had to walk him or else they would plunk that enormous dome each time.
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby 2021WSorBust on Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:49 pm

r.g. wrote:The problem with that idea is Dipoto would trade him for Dustin Ackley.


So you're saying Ackley is less productive than a decapitated frozen corpse. :P
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby r.g. on Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:53 pm

Yes, comparing Bonds, to anyone who wants to justify his roid season, is like comparing Livia Brito to Rosanne Barr.
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby Captain 97 on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:05 pm

After he roided up Bonds had 4 straight years with an OBP over .500
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby Jibber Jabber on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:07 pm

For non-PED monsters, the "big 3" of career offense is Ruth/Williams/Cobb

For me, no player will ever exceed the accomplishments and the general impact of the Babe- but I think Teddy is at 2nd place on that list. Just imagine if 1943-45 were active years for him when he was in his prime.

The one that blows me away the most for Williams is the 3:1 BB:K ratio, the guy walked 3 times for every strikeout- that boggles my mind.

and he wasn't hitting against rubes just off of the farm. He played from 1939-1960, during which time the top pitchers included Spahn, Roberts, Wynn, Feller, etc

My last point of stunned astonishment- he had a 9.7 WAR in 1957 when he was 38 years old!! The only higher tally at that age was...yep, Roid Rage Bonds.
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby r.g. on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:43 pm

As opposed to people like Zunino...what was his walk to K rate? Or better yet, K to walk rate? Maybe 200:1

Or how about the M's center fielder....no wait, cant include him because pitchers were afraid to walk him. :roll: :roll:
 
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Re: Ted Williams

Postby maoling on Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:21 pm

Jibber Jabber wrote:For non-PED monsters, the "big 3" of career offense is Ruth/Williams/Cobb

For me, no player will ever exceed the accomplishments and the general impact of the Babe- but I think Teddy is at 2nd place on that list. Just imagine if 1943-45 were active years for him when he was in his prime.

The one that blows me away the most for Williams is the 3:1 BB:K ratio, the guy walked 3 times for every strikeout- that boggles my mind.

and he wasn't hitting against rubes just off of the farm. He played from 1939-1960, during which time the top pitchers included Spahn, Roberts, Wynn, Feller, etc

My last point of stunned astonishment- he had a 9.7 WAR in 1957 when he was 38 years old!! The only higher tally at that age was...yep, Roid Rage Bonds.



Shout out for Rogers Hornsby. Career 127 WAR. The Rajah! My favorite hitting machine outside of Edgar. Plus 1951 Seattle Rainiers Manager and we won the PCL pennant that year.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ro01.shtml

Surprised the M's haven't tried to hang that banner from the rafters at Safeco. Y'know, borrowed or shared history, sort of like Clay-Clay's fake NBA Trophy at the Fart Center....oops I mean the Chesapeake Fracking Energy Arena.
 
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