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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby D-Trains on Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:11 pm

Up to a 7 seed though. Projecting vs. NC state. Imagine our D vs. that team that scored 28 points in a game this weekend. lol

Washington cracked NCAA tournament projections back in December as a double-digit seed, but it’s taken awhile for the bracket gurus to give much credence to UW’s postseason bid.

For weeks, the Huskies hovered between a No. 9 and 11 seed, a slot given to teams expected to make a quick exit from the Big Dance.


Following its 11-game winning streak, the national perception about Washington appears to be changing if the latest NCAA tournament forecasts are an indication.

Jerry Palm at CBS Sports projects Washington as a No. 7 seed facing No. 10 North Carolina State in Jacksonville, Fla. in a West region that would include No. 1 Gonzaga and No. 3 North Carolina.

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Meanwhile, Howie Schwaab at Fox Sports tabs the Huskies as a No. 7 seed in the West region against No. 8 Alabama.

“They’re doing great in the league, but the Pac-12 is not great,” Palm said. “The problem is they’re not picking up quality wins that will get the Selection Committee’s attention.

“They had chances in nonconference play. They played four likely tournament teams (Gonzaga, Virginia Tech, Auburn and Minnesota) and had chances in all but the Auburn game. They couldn’t find a win and unfortunately, the league doesn’t have anybody as good as the teams they played outside the league. They can’t resume build.”

Washington plays at Arizona on Thursday before facing Arizona State on Saturday in a pair of pivotal games that’ll have postseason ramifications.

“Arizona State is barely hanging on to a seed and Arizona is trying to get in so they need those wins much more than Washington,” Palm said. “This might be the only time Washington could drop games and it wouldn’t really hurt them.”

Even if the Huskies win their remaining nine regular-season games and captures a Pac-12 tournament title, Palm projects Washington as a No. 4 seed.

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“It really depends on other teams around the country, but Washington’s ceiling is 4ish,” Palm said. “It’s hard for me to see a 3 even if they run the table. It’s hard to imagine enough of these other teams falling off to open a door for Washington to get that high.”

Here’s a look at where UW stands in other NCAA tournament projections:

For weeks, ESPN’s bracket guru Joe Lunardi has had UW as a No. 8 seed and his latest projections haven’t changed. His latest bracket has the Huskies pairing against No. 9 Baylor in Columbia, SC in a South region highlighted by No. 1 Virginia.

Michael Beller at Sports Illustrated projects Washington as a No. 8 seed in the South region pared against No. 9 Ole Mississippi.

Washington (18-4, 9-0 Pac-12) has won 11 consecutive games, which is tied with Gonzaga for the second longest active winning streak among Division I teams behind Tennessee (16).

Despite being one of hottest teams in the country, the Huskies still remain outside the top 25 in The Associated Press and USA Today coaches’ poll. UW is unofficially No. 26 in the AP rankings and No. 28 in the coaches’ poll.


Washington’s resume at a glance

Record: 18-4 (9-0 Pac-12)
NET rank: 28
KenPom rank: 34
RPI rank: 19
Strength of schedule: 49
Record vs. Quadrant 1 teams: 2-3
Record vs. Quadrant 2 teams: 2-1
Record vs. Quadrant 3 teams: 7-0
Record vs. Quadrant 4 teams: 7-0
Record at home: 12-0
Record on the road/neutral site: 6-4
Notable wins: At Oregon, at Oregon State, at Colorado, at Utah.
Notable losses: No. 1 Gonzaga, No. 11 Auburn, No. 13 Virginia Tech.
 
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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby Hindemith on Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:20 pm

On a thread where i provided the links to the two most advanced, meaningful rankings out there you guys are still fixated on polling systems which arbitrarily list only 25 teams. Like that is some sacred all-important threshold to make it into the "top 25" of some opinion poll. It's time to dump that kid stuff and move up to the big leagues, eh boys? 8)
 
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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby D-Trains on Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:48 pm

Hindemith wrote:On a thread where i provided the links to the two most advanced, meaningful rankings out there you guys are still fixated on polling systems which arbitrarily list only 25 teams. Like that is some sacred all-important threshold to make it into the "top 25" of some opinion poll. It's time to dump that kid stuff and move up to the big leagues, eh boys? 8)


Yes, my only fascination by it is that we still aren't ranked in the those two old school polls.

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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby D-Trains on Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:50 pm

Interestingly the old school and the new school polls all have us in the high 20s,

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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby Hindemith on Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:34 pm

Net rankings and CBPI aren't polls.

No more reliance on the RPI.

The NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee has a new tool that hopefully should crystalize the ranking system before the selection and seeding of teams for the 2019 NCAA tournament.

The NCAA Evaluation Tool, or NET, will be the new barometer for the committee, and it will include game results, strength of schedule, game location, scoring margin (capping at 10 points per game), and net offensive and defensive efficiency.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-me ... s-new-tool

The College Basketball Power Index (BPI) is a measure of team strength that is meant to be the best predictor of performance going forward. BPI represents how many points above or below average a team is. Strength of Record (SOR) is a measure of team accomplishment based on how difficult a team's W-L record is to achieve. Game predictions account for opponent strength, pace of play, site, travel distance, day's rest and altitude, and are used to simulate the season 10,000 times to produce season projections. Numbers update daily.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi
 
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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby Hindemith on Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:40 pm

One thing that Net rankings and CBPI don't take into consideration is injuries, and I fear that without Noah Dickerson the Huskies may drop a few games in the coming weeks.
 
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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby D-Trains on Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:19 pm

He tweeted after the game that he is fine.
 
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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby Hindemith on Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:43 pm

D-Trains wrote:He tweeted after the game that he is fine.

What? He couldn't put any weight on that leg after the sprain, now he's okay?
 
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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby Livesmatterinthiscountry on Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:33 pm

D-Trains wrote:He tweeted after the game that he is fine.


He is fine meaning he didn't break or tear anything and will be back in a few weeks. Not much on his sprained ankle though. If it's a high ankle sprain he will probably be looking at month or more. Meanwhile can anyone score in the paint for them ?
 
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Re: NET rankings and CB Power Index

Postby D-Trains on Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:07 am

If he was going to be out a month I think Hop would have been able to say he couldn't play Thursday.

By Percy Allen
Seattle Times staff reporter
The Huskies won their 11th straight game — a 69-55 victory over UCLA — but they lost all-Pac-12 forward Noah Dickerson for most of the second half after he suffered a right ankle sprain.

After the game, coach Mike Hopkins wasn’t sure if Dickerson would return when Washington (18-4, 9-0 Pac-12) goes on the road this week for a pair of games at Arizona and Arizona State.
 
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