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Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby Grandma Lynn on Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:05 pm

What's your opinion of building a new
hospital for the mentally disabled?
It seems the one we have should be
taken down and a new larger and
safer one be built. 200 million is a lot
of course, but repairing this one and
maybe building a few smaller ones
around the state isn't the answer.
As we all know, more people are
needing the hospital, sorry to say,
but it's true.
And we need to keep the workers
safe, which isn't happening now.
And escapes too.
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby Moe Gibbs on Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:40 am

Grandma Lynn wrote:What's your opinion of building a new
hospital for the mentally disabled?
It seems the one we have should be
taken down and a new larger and
safer one be built. 200 million is a lot
of course, but repairing this one and
maybe building a few smaller ones
around the state isn't the answer.
As we all know, more people are
needing the hospital, sorry to say,
but it's true.
And we need to keep the workers
safe, which isn't happening now.
And escapes too.


I think more people could regain their mental health by being forced to survive a "homesteading" scenario where they needed to keep themselves busy from sun up to sun down for their basic survival than to have them attend "encounter sessions" with psychotherapists and then given pharmaceutical drugs to help pass their idle time with.
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby HawkBowler on Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:57 am

Seattle has basically legalized drug use. You can be caught with anything if in small enough quantities and not go to jail now.

The homeless are a mixture of the mentally unstable, drug addicts, and the people that prey upon the former two. Since we have a socialist Dirken in charge, the problem is only growing. They're asking the wrong questions -- how can we raise millions for the homeless? -- rather than how can we make best use of city funds to lessen the problem? Take people off the streets. Reduce drug use and the crime that comes with it. For the socialist, this isn't a problem because their goal is to grow government power and control. The more people dependant on them the better... the stronger their arguments. But their solution is always to add more socialism which doesn't fix anything.

The mentally unstable on the streets, and to be honest -- they all look mentally unstable and they are to some degree. To reverse the trend, the city should not overlook drug possession. Instead, they should take these people into custody and put them into detox. On the flip side, the cops should be able to take out all the drug dealers in the Pike Pine corridor.

That all takes money of course. And the socialist do not spend money well. They want to buy RV wagons that go around and offer a safe place for addicts to shoot up? It's craziness. So to that point, we need to look at the mental health of our politicians first. Is what they're advocating sane? Are they forced to be held accountable?
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby Bo Riley on Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:11 pm

More people are suffering from mental illness now than ever before. There is a direct correlation to the Trump effect and it's saddening to see. Best bet is to unplug from social media, the news and stay active. And avoid Moe types at all cost.
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby SeaFreak on Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:23 am

HawkBowler wrote:Seattle has basically legalized drug use. You can be caught with anything if in small enough quantities and not go to jail now.

The homeless are a mixture of the mentally unstable, drug addicts, and the people that prey upon the former two. Since we have a socialist Dirken in charge, the problem is only growing. They're asking the wrong questions -- how can we raise millions for the homeless? -- rather than how can we make best use of city funds to lessen the problem? Take people off the streets. Reduce drug use and the crime that comes with it. For the socialist, this isn't a problem because their goal is to grow government power and control. The more people dependant on them the better... the stronger their arguments. But their solution is always to add more socialism which doesn't fix anything.

The mentally unstable on the streets, and to be honest -- they all look mentally unstable and they are to some degree. To reverse the trend, the city should not overlook drug possession. Instead, they should take these people into custody and put them into detox. On the flip side, the cops should be able to take out all the drug dealers in the Pike Pine corridor.

That all takes money of course. And the socialist do not spend money well. They want to buy RV wagons that go around and offer a safe place for addicts to shoot up? It's craziness. So to that point, we need to look at the mental health of our politicians first. Is what they're advocating sane? Are they forced to be held accountable?



I think the cost of an addict is super minimal versus the cost of affluent people. Sure a smack head isn't generating much in terms of GDP, but I think the burden on society is minimal.

I also think drug use and mental health are two totally different things.

Opiates are going to be something that we have to deal with. The cat is out of the bag. The pharmaceutical versions have ramped up the whole game. People are using opiates like crazy, and it's not just homeless people.

Mental illness is tough, because things like schizophrenia are not diagnosed through a blood test. It's subjective. But, as for homelessness, I think much of it is about people's sense of hope. In today's economic environment, it's not surprising to me that many people would choose to bomb their brains with opiates.
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby Moe Gibbs on Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:00 pm

People who are actively engaged on a daily basis with strenuous physical activity and activities that are designed to provide your own food, shelter and warmth simply do not have any spare time to be sick in the head.

If you need to use President Trump as your lame excuse for the rise in mentally ill, self mutilated, NWO brainwashed Snowflake Sheeple SJW Cattle who need to take mood altering pharmaceuticals [way before Trump ever got elected] , or else smoke dope hourly just to feel "normal" [way before Trump ever got elected]....well, we [conservatives] can all "see right through that". You [libtards] are not fooling anyone but yourselves.
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby Grandma Lynn on Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:06 pm

There are people who need care for their
mental health. I'm not saying drugs can
and are a part of it, but people can be
in need of mental help without being on
drugs.
This is what I'm talking about. Build the
hospital. Don't compare it with the homeless.
They are another story.
And protect those who care for them!
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby beenthereanddonethat on Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:11 pm

From Moe: I think more people could regain their mental health by being forced to survive a "homesteading" scenario where they needed to keep themselves busy from sun up to sun down for their basic survival than to have them attend "encounter sessions" with psychotherapists and then given pharmaceutical drugs to help pass their idle time with.

This is also known as being homeless knowing fully you are blamed for the circumstances you find yourself, Blame the victim and not the perpetrators
. How nice.
 
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Re: Wash. State Mental Hospital

Postby Moe Gibbs on Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:48 pm

beenthereanddonethat wrote: I think more people could regain their mental health by being forced to survive a "homesteading" scenario[/b] where they needed to keep themselves busy from sun up to sun down for their basic survival than to have them attend "encounter sessions" with psychotherapists and then given pharmaceutical drugs to help pass their idle time with.

This is also known as being homeless knowing fully you are blamed for the circumstances you find yourself, Blame the victim and not the perpetrators
. How nice.


This is what Moe] also said.....
People who are actively engaged on a daily basis with strenuous physical activity and activities that are designed to provide your own food, shelter and warmth simply do not have any spare time to be sick in the head.


Next time you see one of your [of course clean and sober] Homeless friends tilling soil, dropping seed, weeding, trapping squirrels, rabbits, splitting and stacking firewood, collecting and purifying water, or even reading self help books that teach how to live off the land beneath the radar..please take photos and share them here with us........ :roll: LOL.
The younger set of Homeless who haven't destroyed their health via self destructive, self indulgence would be much better served if they were offered a Homesteading opportunity or else induction into a People's Work Force [which is a step below public service in the military, but requires a similar "sworn into" commitment]. FDR had programs like this that saved many hopeless folks.
I believe [to this day] the Germans have a clean and sober Civilian Workforce as well.
How nice.
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