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Re: Caravan

Postby HawkBowler on Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:44 pm

Moe Gibbs wrote:
SeaFreak wrote:
What about the piano? Was it invented by the military?

Science is not driven by warfare..,. that's an idiotic comment. Maybe you could say warfare has been driven by science. Discovery and invention can come from anywhere. When a botanist discovers a new type of plant in the rain forest, that doesn't have to be a military operation. In other words, we don't need the military to make discovery and technological breakthrough... seems like a straight forward concept to me. Crediting warfare for invention seems like a total stretch and rationalization.


Scientific advance is driven by research grants and by guaranteed patronage when the new product is ready for use.
The Federal Government and namely the DoD patronized so much research and invention in areas that you obviously have no clue about



Thanks for smack back, Moe, SeaFreak is tiring me out on this issue. He's being obstinate.

I guess I could go broader and say that the two major drivers of technology are warfare and money. We don't cure diseases in which there's no profit. Helps explain why we have the world's best penis pills but still no cure for the common cold. Tourism is now driving space exploration.

I suppose SeaFreak doesn't believe in Area 51 and other such places where they work on secret high tech weapons and aircraft. I suppose they're just working for advances to help humanity.
 
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Re: Caravan

Postby HawkBowler on Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:02 pm

Back to the caravan...

The media is showing their true colors over this issue. They tried to promote the notion that the caravan is not a problem -- "They are way down south, hundreds of miles away. They're no threat. It's laughable and racist to think so. It's women and children. Nobody is organizing or aiding them north. None of them are terrorists or criminals. All of them have a legal right within our constitution to seek asylum."

All of the above talking points are outright lies. And has the problem gone away? No, there's still some 5,000 or so stuck on the Mexico side of the border. It's a humanitarian crisis that our media laughed about and told us Trump and Fox News made up.

Now we have the shutdown. The leftist trolls are out there preaching, "But Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall"..."But Trump said that he was taking credit for the shutdown."

None of those arguments work. The DC establishment doesn't seem to realize that they've walked right into Trump's trap. What's his #1 issue? What got him elected? What is now the front and center issue that everyone will be talking about during the shutdown?

The ironic part is that the Dems are hurt most by the shutdown. All the 'non-essential' employees are usually their people, and they are going to start whining about the teet being shut off. And the Dems are stuck on the weak end of the argument... having to argue that a fraction of one percent of the budget is too expensive when they previously voted for a bill with $40 billion in funding instead of only $5 billion. Democrats have to argue that walls don't work when everyone knows that they do. Everywhere the wall goes up illegal crossings go down by 95%. The joke on the left is that people will just bring ladders, but it turns out that people prefer to go around walls vs over them.

The Democrats are going to lose this battle. They take over the House during a shutdown. Doesn't matter what Trump has said, they will be the bad guys because they are acting with 100% political motive. It's about denying Trump, even if that means denying Americans border security. A losing proposition.
 
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Re: Caravan

Postby Moe Gibbs on Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:50 pm

HawkBowler wrote:
Moe Gibbs wrote:
SeaFreak wrote:
What about the piano? Was it invented by the military?

Science is not driven by warfare..,. that's an idiotic comment. Maybe you could say warfare has been driven by science. Discovery and invention can come from anywhere. When a botanist discovers a new type of plant in the rain forest, that doesn't have to be a military operation. In other words, we don't need the military to make discovery and technological breakthrough... seems like a straight forward concept to me. Crediting warfare for invention seems like a total stretch and rationalization.


Scientific advance is driven by research grants and by guaranteed patronage when the new product is ready for use.
The Federal Government and namely the DoD patronized so much research and invention in areas that you obviously have no clue about



Thanks for smack back, Moe, SeaFreak is tiring me out on this issue. He's being obstinate.

I guess I could go broader and say that the two major drivers of technology are warfare and money. We don't cure diseases in which there's no profit. Helps explain why we have the world's best penis pills but still no cure for the common cold. Tourism is now driving space exploration.

I suppose SeaFreak doesn't believe in Area 51 and other such places where they work on secret high tech weapons and aircraft. I suppose they're just working for advances to help humanity.


He could get his throat slashed while discussing male chauvinism with an Arab and still blame it on himself for being insensitive and patronizing.
 
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Re: Caravan

Postby HawkBowler on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:32 am

Where are BTDT, Bo Jack, Jack Cus, Riley when it comes to defending open borders? Come on, guys. Tell us why the wall doesn't work and why we're all foolishly concerned with millions of illegals in the country.

Just like the leftist media, they avoid the subject altogether. Better to pretend they are all good and non-racist then to actually look at the problem and recommend solutions.
 
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Re: Caravan

Postby Melvin Bradford on Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:39 am

The Demonics are champions of omission. It's the act of doing evil by doing nothing. My favorite example of this behavior is in Somerset Maughams 'The Razors Edge'.where Isabel leaves Sophie (a recovery alcoholic) in a state of despair and a room full of booze knowing full well that Sophie will self destruct. It was an act of vengeance toward the man she could not have and who loved Sophie. Sophie dies.

The press and their allies in Congress like to frame the 'border wall' as a personal act of the President thereby divorcing IT from the responsibility of the President and indeed Congress to protect the country from illegal entry.

It's obvious, to me anyway, that the Demonics who are elected to office to run the country....really don't want a country.
It's where the ambitions of universalism war against the very structure they exist in. But I/ we know better than that. Anarchy may be the fruit of said ambition...but the end is total political power over a subservient society.

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Re: Caravan

Postby HawkBowler on Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:29 am

Melvin Bradford wrote:The Demonics are champions of omission. It's the act of doing evil by doing nothing. My favorite example of this behavior is in Somerset Maughams 'The Razors Edge'.where Isabel leaves Sophie (a recovery alcoholic) in a state of despair and a room full of booze knowing full well that Sophie will self destruct. It was an act of vengeance toward the man she could not have and who loved Sophie. Sophie dies.



Interesting, I want to check that out at some point. Did you know that there was a 1984 remake starring Bill Murray? I somehow missed them both.

It's amazing how some of these movies from the 40s and 50s were really dark and edgy. Even It's A Wonderful Life. People were turned off by a movie about a man falling towards suicide in 1946. The movie didn't become a hit until 1970 when the copyright expired. TV stations could then show it for free, and they did over and over until it became a classic.
 
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Re: Caravan

Postby beenthereanddonethat on Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:46 pm

It's amazing how some of these movies from the 40s and 50s were really dark and edgy. Even It's A Wonderful Life. People were turned off by a movie about a man falling towards suicide in 1946. The movie didn't become a hit until 1970 when the copyright expired. TV stations could then show it for free, and they did over and over until it became a classic

Don't you wonder why Hawk? Films like "It's a Wonderful Life" depict a time when a hard working person was callously put aside in favor of greed. Mr Potter is today's trump and the republican congress. I guess that was lost on you.
 
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Re: Caravan

Postby HawkBowler on Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:30 am

beenthereanddonethat wrote:Don't you wonder why Hawk? Films like "It's a Wonderful Life" depict a time when a hard working person was callously put aside in favor of greed. Mr Potter is today's trump and the republican congress. I guess that was lost on you.


Ah, interesting analogy. Who is the Mr. Potter of today? You can't say it's Trump... not after trashing him for months as a guy who wasn't all that great a businessman... no, you would have to choose the real tycoons of today. The people with the most power over other people and our government. So the Mr. Potters would be Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet.... that's half the wealth in the country right there. All Democrats.

The Dems have floated billionaires for presidential candidates... Bloomberg, Steyer, Schultz, Cuban... All white guys ironically enough. How do these guys deliver the identity politics? Do they just go on stage and whip themselves for all their accumulated white guilt? Also, some of those guys are Jews, and as we know, the left hates Jews.

George Bailey is a conservative. No doubt about it. He's also a civil libertarian judging by the way he treats his town's people. The message of It's A Wonderful Life is that every INDIVIDUAL has an impact on the lives around them. We get too caught up in our own woes that sometimes we don't see the greater good that our lives have already produced.

It won't be long before for the Socialist justice warriors go after this movie. All white people in all white America. The only black people in the film are servants. Socialists don't believe in the individual. They believe in the collective and only the collective. Socialists hate the George Bailey's of this world. They have a callous disregard for how their policies and pursuits impact other people... much like Mr. Potter.
 
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Re: Caravan

Postby Grandma Lynn on Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:38 pm

Well, another person murdered by an
illegal SOB!
Oh, it's only one person, you might say?
Could have been you or yours!
And the sick 2 children who have died.
Pres. Trump blames it on the Democrats.
No, it's the mother's and fathers who take
their kids with them. And who's to say
that there's a possibility that this just might
be something catching too. They kids were
both from the same country...just a thought.
Democrats only are after Pres. Trump. We
know that. As we have seen, they have said
they want a wall a few years ago. Why not
now? Strictly like kids, jealous of one kid
and taking it out on him/her. Doing rotten
things and blaming the kid they don't like.
Now we all have to pay?
 
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Re: Caravan

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