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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby HawkBowler on Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:58 pm

auroraave wrote:How many times are y'all gonna fall for the same "this is it!" game? Put your fake Trump rage aside and ask yourself if you ever considered the ramifications of a Pence Presidency?


Yes, I do think that the Democrats would prefer Pence to Trump because he's part of the establishment. Sure, he would try to introduce gay conversion therapy or something like that, but there's no way for him to advance some of the far right agenda. Look at border security. Should be a non-partisan issue. All of the politicians have taken the oath to uphold the laws and protect the sovereignty of America, but do we see this in action?

People on the right, which, BTW, used to be slightly left...LOL... people who are not far left radical socialists... most people... they say the Dems are doing this because they hate Trump or they want him out of office. This by itself is deplorable, but it's so much worse. It's not Trump that they want to stop. They want to shut down any plans to stop illegal immigration. It's a political necessity for them. The money is nothing compared to the $3 trillion budget. Giving Trump a political victory, sure, they don't want that. But to hold up the government in order to keep the status quo on illegal immigration? This shows that the Dems are in a desperate situation.

It's not enough for Dems just to say they're for border security while Nancy Pelosi says she'll give a dollar and they all laugh. This is not serious negotiation. This is a middle finger. Not just to Trump but to the country writ large. It's the job of House Dems to pass a budget that will make it through the Senate and Trump's desk. So far they're not even trying to do that. When Trump offered to reopen the government today if the Dems come back to the table in good faith negotiations within 30 days, he was flatly told no by Nancy. What else can Trump do?
 
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby fanaticalmariner on Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:41 pm

The list of ignoramuses on this forum defending the gropenführer is far too long but at least it is shrinking. That ignorant man (the gropenführer) will die in Federal Prison. The recent revelations about Manafort swapping polling data w/ Russian spies is 1 more nail in the coffin.

There is no worry about a President Pence he'll be gone soon enough .... much like Ford. There will be 10+ additional Democratic Party members in the 2020 Senate and another 25-40 Democrats in the 2020 House of Representatives. Trump and Pence will accomplish nothing in the next 23 months ..... if nothing else ..... Pence replacing the gropenführer in the WH will result in an even greater blue wave in the 2020 elections.
 
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby Melvin Bradford on Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:48 pm

Think about that statement.........'the Russians getting polling data'......man, thats serious stuff. Next thing you know the Russians will get insider trading stock picks. Better yet, Trumps minions will help them develop an algorithm to take over fantasy football. Muellers on course to reach the summit of Mt. Stupid sometime in the late spring or early summer. So how does he still operate if "the government is shut down' ?
 
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby fanaticalmariner on Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:54 pm

Hey Mel ..... pay attention as the shutdown ends ..... either piecemeal or all at once. You really are an ignoramus ..... or from some other country.
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby HawkBowler on Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:48 am

Ha... turns out it wasn't a Russian but a Ukrainian. Close but not Russian enough.

What's the real reason that this Manafort misinformation came out?

Rod Rosenstein resigned from the DOJ yesterday. Yes, same guy who said in a meeting that he wanted to wear a wire and impeach the president. The same guy that gave a recommendation to Trump to fire Comey and then set up a special counsel to investigate why Trump fired Comey.

There's no longer any protection for Mueller at the top of the DOJ. Everyone on Comey's team trying to whitewash Hillary's investigation even though she committed many crimes, and the same people that tried to frame Trump without any crime at all.... they're all gone. Most have been fired for cause and are now facing their own prosecution.
 
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby fanaticalmariner on Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:28 am

The gropenführer's fixer Michael Cohen's has plead guilty to multiple felony crimes that he committed on behalf of the gropenführer and has admitted or testified in Federal Court that his "boss" directed him" to commit felony crimes .... making his former boss (the gropenführer) even more guilty of those crime than he is himself.

So America has a potus who is soon to be found guilty of multiple felony crimes. Anyone with a high school diploma has learned the most state laws forbid felons from holding or running for high political office ..... and for the multiple ignoramuses who continue to defend the gropenführer ..... that means the gropenführer will not remain in office.

In the several next weeks and months 20 necessary Republican Senators will line up to support the Democratic
party's impeachment efforts.
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby HawkBowler on Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:08 am

fanaticalmariner wrote: The US Constitution forbids felons from holding high political office ..... and for the multiple ignoramuses ..... that means the gropenführer cannot remain in the office of potus.


A sitting president cannot be indicted.
 
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby Melvin Bradford on Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:09 am

There is no restriction in the US Constitution against a felon running for and holding office, state and local laws notwithstanding. Marion Barry, "DC Mayor for life" was elected to office after a felony drug conviction and prison term. Technically, DC is under the auspices of Congress.

Any President can be arrested (subdued) for a violent crime, just like any other American. But criminal proceedings cannot move forward until he/ she is removed from office.
 
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby fanaticalmariner on Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:50 pm

Today we hear reports of the gropenführer floating the idea several times in 2018 to his aides for the USA to leave NATO. This is just an example of the gropenführer's deviation from the norm while at the same time trying to please Putin. Anyone who still questions whether or not the gropenführer is a pawn of Putin ...... is a moron. :roll:
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Re: Let's Talk Impeachment!

Postby HawkBowler on Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:52 am

Why shouldn't we leave NATO?

It was formed to protect against the Soviet Union that dissolved more than three decades ago. Russia has a GDP of 1.7 trillion. NATO countries have a GDP of 17 trillion. In short, they can defend themselves. There's no possibility of Russia invading western Europe Hitler style. And there's also no possibility of Red Dawn style attack on the US. If that were to happen, don't worry fanatical, there will be plenty of conservatives with guns to protect you. Wolverines!

What's rather more disturbing is the NY Times article that came out a few days ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/p ... quiry.html

The FBI opened an inquiry into whether Trump was a Russian agent when they KNEW that he wasn't. It was just an excuse to go fishing against the president.

Stop watching Rachel Maddow, fanatical. She's lying to you and rotting your brain.
 
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